07/15/95 New Musical Express
Reflective Glory
by Steve Sutherland & Kevin Cummins
Thirty years and unbowed by the pressures of the music
industry, Neil Young is possibly the last great musical
outlaw, though it seems to think Pearl Jam may just be
able to carry the torch when he's gone. Steve Sutherland
finally gets his dream interview with the warrior chief
of the great rock 'n' roll plains. Neil Young and a tree:
Kevin Cummins
It is said of Crazy Horse that, in preparing for battle,
he'd sprinkle a little dirt thrown up by a burrowing mole
over his hair and over his pony so that the mole's blindness
might be transmitted to his enemies and render him invisible.
He was never captured or defeated in battle.
Crazy Horse was an Oglala Teton Sioux who always wore
a rock on a thong between his heart and the enemy. A bold
warrior and a brilliant military tactician, he slaughtered
the vainglorious Custer at the Battle Of Little Big Horn
but he would never allow any sketch, painting or photographic
image to be taken of him, lest he surrender a part of
his soul.
Crazy Horse is also reputed to have said that , when he
died, his bones would turn to rock and his joints to flint.
In moments of crises, he could dream himself into the
real world", thus evading the pain and dangers of
this temporal one.
When he was finally murdered by friendly" soldiers
on September 5, 1877, he refused to lie on a prison cot
to ease his demise, electing instead to remain on the
floor. As Ian Frazier says in his book The Great
Plains": Lying where he chose, Crazy Horse showed
the rest of us where we are standing. With his body, he
demonstrated that the floor of an army office was part
of the land, and that the land was still his."
It was surely no accident that, way back in '69, when
Neil Young felt the need of a rock 'n' roll band, he named
his hirelings after Crazy Horse. Young was on the run
from a lot of things at the time. From the shallow pop
success of Buffalo Springfield. From the constrictions
of a folksy first solo LP that failed to deliver the sounds
he heard in his head. From his first terrifying realization
that he suffered from epilepsy. From the narcs who were
combing Lanois to bust prominent examples of degenerate
youth.
Crazy Horse was the point where Neil Young stopped running,
the place he made his stand. He's been standing ever since.
And, judging by the number of young musicians who, to
paraphrase his mighty 'Cortez The Killer', have come to
gather round him like leaves around a tree, it's the strongest
place to be right now.
Thirty years after staring out playing his native Canadian
folk club circuit with his band The Squires, Neil Young
wakes up on an azure blue San Francisco morning to discover
himself the most important rock icon in the world. He
scratches the bald bit at the back of his head, the bit
he hides under his cap (his sole concession to vanity)
and laughs heartily.
Yeah, they've started calling me Don Grungeone.
I kinda got this fatherly happening right now. Don't ask
me why. I'm just here, where I always was, doing what
I love to do." It is precisely Young's steadfastness,
his refusal to compromise, his rugged belief in the robust
mystery of his talent, his dogged pursual of his own shooting
star, his cheer joyful addiction to noise, and his firm
sense of dignity that attracts these young disciples.
In times of shifting brand loyalties and corporate, soul-owning
sponsorship, a floundering generation is drawn to Young
like a drowner to a rock.
Budding stars who wished to proceed without guilt, and
those who need to believe that rock 'n' roll can be still
a renegade's hideout, have found things have grown so
rotten out there that Neil Young may well be their last
and only refuge, their sole resource.
He has achieve this status without surrendering one morsel
of his decency or giving one inch of his ground. Young
is justly perceived as a true hero in a time when heroism
has been confused with celebrity and people are revered
for their public image rather than for what they have
actually achieved. Like the leading man in a John Ford
western, Young has always done what he had to do. And
he is now, 50 years old, his hair long and grizzly gray,
laughing like a crone, showing off teeth that have seen
better days, understanding all this intuitively. It's
not about thought processes for him, it's about being
struck by the urge, like lightning strikes a rod.
Young is a semi-aware that he has just recorded an entire
album about the nature of heroism. It's called Mirror
Ball" and it's about how we all feel the need for heroes
and how they always let us down because they're only human
and that's what human do. It's also about how life is
the most precious gift of all and yet there are still
some causes worth dying for.
Mirror Ball" is an album about these mighty contradictions
and more, themes Young has hacked at throughout his whole
career, articulating them as best he can but endlessly
arriving the only possible conclusion: that there is no
solution. So live with it.
On Mirror Ball", though, the natural incompatibility
of these forces has been raised into shocking relief by
one disciple choosing an unfeasibly extreme interpretation
of Young's message. When Kurt Cobain quoted, It's
Better to burn out, than to fade away." In his suicide
note, citing Young's lyric as artistic justification for
ending his inconsolable anguish, Young was shaken to the
bone. Always an advocate of allowing the listener his
or her own individual path through a record, he was so
devastated by Cobain's personal reaction to a song that
was basically written as a celebration of Punk that he
was impelled to record the Sleeps With Angels" album
in lament.
Perversely, it is testament to Young's emotive power that
Cobain should choose his words as an epitaph, but it is
something Young still visibly shudders from. Once a song
is out there on the radio, the reasons, it's not anyone's
responsibility anymore.
It's the machine and the fuel. It's over now. I'm
not behind the wheel at all. It's gone. It's over."
As for Cobain, he mutters: I don't wanna talk about
that. I just don't know what to say. Obviously his interpretation
should not be taken to mean there's only two ways to go
and one of them is death."
He laughs a cold, dry laugh.
It's rumoured that Young was trying to contact Cobain
at the time of his suicide, that he somehow foresaw the
tragedy coming.
I don't wanna talk about it," says Young.
I really don't because I respect the fact that he's a
guy who did what he did and, y'know, he did what he had
to do and I don't wanna get any ..." He falters and recomposes
himself behind alarming blue shades. I prefer to
not be involved at all. I certainly don't wanna take advantage
of talking about something like that for the interest
of somebody else I've never met and selling myself in
paper in the process. I'd rather you just left it out
It's just distasteful to me."
What Neil Young is talking about when we first meet him
is golf. He's a half hour late when he appears, waving
cheerily, around the bend at the wheel of a curvaceous
powder blue '50s Cadillac convertible. As he pulls into
the Mountain View Restaurant. His local bar on the hushed
, piney slopes of Skyline, some 20 miles south of San
Francisco, he is engaged in a conversation about golf
with his longtime manager Elliot Roberts, a man who, over
the years, has also worked with Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell,
Laura Nyro and Jackson Browne.
Shhhhh", says Roberts theatrically as the Cadillac
pulls up in the lot out front. You can't talk about
golf. The press is here!"
It's, OK," we say, remembering how much Young appreciated
Dinosaur's Jr. Version of his 'Lotta Love' on the Young
tribute album, The Bridge", J Mascis plays
golf."
Yeah," laughs Young. And Pearl Jam plays golf."
Ah, Pearl Jam, Young's chosen Backing band on Mirror
Ball". There must surely be some measure of making amends
on Young's part in the forging of this mutual appreciation.
It surely cannot have escaped Young's notice that Pearl
Jam - and in particular Eddie Vedder - where both Kurt
Cobain's complement and nemesis. Courtney Love has publicly
bemoaned the fact that it wasn't Eddie rather than her
husband who took that awful option. And, in recoiling
from the limelight in horror and grief, it surely isn't
too fanciful to suggest that Vedder is seeking solace
and strength from Young's battered resilience.
Young says he met the band, two or three years ago
on tour" and immediately established a rapport. It
wasn't that they were good., I could relate to what I
would do if I was playing with them. And I could see myself
doing it. The music worked. It had this drive. There's
this big machine in there. I like that power."
Pearl Jam, like many of their contemporaries, were already
covering Neil Young songs in their live set when they
met him. But it was only after the shared trauma of Cobain's
suicide that they teamed up. Initially, Young invited
Pearl Jam to join his annual Bridge School Benefit Concert
last year and marked the occasion by reintroducing the
burn out" song 'Hey Hey My My (Out Of The Blue)'
into his set despite reports that he would never play
the song again. Poignantly placed the set just after 'Sleeps
With Angels', Young's requiem for Kurt Cobain, it was
a symbolic statement of his intent to reclaim rock music
from the darkness. Working with Pearl Jam on Mirror
Ball" can be taken as his next regenerative step.
There is a song on the album that couldn't say it much
plainer. It's called 'Throw Your Hatred Down'; one of
those songs in which Young miraculously turns the negative
into positive through the cleansing power of his sheer
physical exertion and his unerring grasp of an epic melody.
In other words, like many of Young's great songs, it sounds
like what it is saying. It works.
Throwing Your Hatred Down I kinda hard to describe
visually," says Young, struggling to articulate what comes
naturally to him. It is a physical thing that might
have been in my head. I still can see this ..." He lunges
forward, bringing his arms down from over his head like
he's wielding an axe. ... but I can't see what
it is."
Young is such a physical guitar player that I once described
watching him play as like watching a labourer dig a road
and Mirror Ball" is harder than anything Young's
ever recorded. It sounds as if it's a work detail breaking
rock 'n' roll on a chain gang of fame. Can you picture
the movie? Young as the seasoned lag teaching the rookies
from Pearl Jam how to keep the spirit alive?
The sessions that produced Mirror Ball" were raw,
quick, sweaty and cleansing; just the way Young likes
it.
That's great. It's not a macho display like, y'know,
some bands have this strutting thing where they get up
there and move around and they sweat and they pose and
they need to work out just to be in shape to go through
all that. I mean, those guys are in great shape!"
But the sweating we do is because we're so far into
it that we've forgotten how to not sweat. Y'know, I'm
thinking about the breathing and everything. I start hyperventilating,
my nose gets really cold and I feel this cool breeze blowing
in my face when it's about 110 on stage. It's like you
just get to that point where nothing else is there, it's
just all gone and you're taking off and everybody is way
into it and then the whole crowd goes with you."
You see, in the '60s, that used to happen a lot.
That's what music was all about. Every band would jam
on everything and the crowds would go berserk. I don't
mean they were yelling for hits. I mean they just became
a mass and they were lost in the music. It was truly an
idealistic kind of musical experience."
And I think that happens more today than has happened
in the last 25 years, because of this movement and Nirvana
and Sonic Youth and related bands like that who have come
along and made a big turn away from the mainstream while
retaining all the values of pop music. It started turning
all of it on the establishment. All this pessimistic music
that says, 'You created it, now listen to it!' y'know?'
and now people are hearing it."
It makes a lot of sense to me to do it the way they're
doing it. Now people go to a show and people are listening
and they're playing and it's one thing. It's a bond that's
consistent with the '60s ... Or maybe I just don't have
any f---ing idea at all what's going on and this has been
fine for years and everybody was doing this!"
He laughs. The Sex Pistols, yeah, they were getting
together, right , and everybody was into it and I didn't
notice and I just woke up from a big dream!"
Young laughs again. It's his defense mechanism, his selfdeflating
decoy whenever he gets uncomfortably close to articulating
how it all works. You see, Neil Young doesn't trust words,
never has. The Cobain thing served to justify his suspicion
that words and thoughts are not to be relied upon. Feelings
and actions are what Young believes in. Put up or shut
up.
What I'm really happy about is that I can see people
relating to people who are singing directly to them and
they feel the same way about things, about the commercialization
of their world and everything being sold before it's even
finished and everything being kinda out of control and
that their dreams probably won't come true as opposed
to, in the '60s, everybody's dreams were gonna come true,
y'know, eventually. But here, these kids, they know. You
can go all the way through school and not get a job. You
can do all these things that we used to rely on are not
there."
Young sees in Pearl Jam a genuine attempt to discover
a new set of values. Pearl Jam see in Neil Young a man
who has, at worst, survived and, at best, positively thrived
on sticking to his guns.
I think becoming cynical is the first step of reaction,"
he says of the much - publicized slacker / grunge ethos.
But, after that, you can only be cynical for so
long, then you move on. It's not that being cynical is
not good because it's an expression of this pessimistic
thing. It's good to get that out - this is how you feel,
then fine, you gotta say that. Better that than carry
it around. You might as well unload it. But then, after
you've got that out, OK, great, now what's next? That's
where Pearl Jam is going and it's good."
Mirror Ball" was recorded in two short sessions
in Seattle's Bad Animals studio back in January and February
with Pearl Jam's producer Brendan O'Brien in charge. Young
had performed 'Act Of Love' with the band at a Pro-Choice
benefit in Washington and the original intention of the
sessions was just to record that song. At least that's
what Pearl Jam thought.
I don't like to go in the studio and work on just
one song. Some people work for months on one song but
I think I'd go nuts. I wanted to try and get more. So
I just started thinking about them, who they were and
who I was and we tried four songs - got three the first
day and one on the second day. Left. Booked two more separate
days and got three more the first day. I had no songs,
just ideas. For the second day, I was writing the songs
the night before and on the morning of the session." He
laughs. They were there, though. They were there
OK. Sometimes I have to do that to myself to jar it loose."
The beauty of the record, for ma, the thing that
really gives it a depth, is who's playing and when. Where
they decide to play is so great and shows so much more
wisdom and than their years. You see, there was no direction.
There was not one word spoken to do with, y'know, 'You
play here, you play there, let's do this, let's do that.'
Nothin', not one word. We just started off, I'd play a
little bit on the guitar and show them the changes and
then play it and sing it and by the fourth time, it was
over."
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